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	<title>Comments on: Twenty Years Ago the Classics Were Different</title>
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		<title>By: Dowe Keller</title>
		<link>http://jameswharris.wordpress.com/2007/02/24/twenty-years-ago-the-classics-were-different/#comment-1183</link>
		<dc:creator>Dowe Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are fundamental differences between Science Fiction, and other forms of literature.  Science Fiction should be judged on the story and the ideas posed by the author, not style.

No fiction works unless there is a comprehensive and comprehendible story with a solid plot at its heart.  Science Fiction goes farther in demanding that novel ideas be a driving factor in the story.

I would go further to state that, for me, when reading any literature, I can put up with pretty clunky style, and cardboard characters if the story is interesting.  If the story doesn't hold me, however, no amount of style and theme can make up for it.

Too many writers try to cover their plot holes with the spackle of style, and while I like character driven stories, there has to be a story or its just author onanation.

IMHO, Asimov's Foundation Series is a classic because of Psychohistory.  His robot stories because he championed the robot that follows rational rules.  That his style is non-existent and his characters are a nanometer thick is irrelevant from an SF perspective.  In the same way that the fact that Joyce couldn't write himself out of a paper bag seems to be irrelevant in his genre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are fundamental differences between Science Fiction, and other forms of literature.  Science Fiction should be judged on the story and the ideas posed by the author, not style.</p>
<p>No fiction works unless there is a comprehensive and comprehendible story with a solid plot at its heart.  Science Fiction goes farther in demanding that novel ideas be a driving factor in the story.</p>
<p>I would go further to state that, for me, when reading any literature, I can put up with pretty clunky style, and cardboard characters if the story is interesting.  If the story doesn&#8217;t hold me, however, no amount of style and theme can make up for it.</p>
<p>Too many writers try to cover their plot holes with the spackle of style, and while I like character driven stories, there has to be a story or its just author onanation.</p>
<p>IMHO, Asimov&#8217;s Foundation Series is a classic because of Psychohistory.  His robot stories because he championed the robot that follows rational rules.  That his style is non-existent and his characters are a nanometer thick is irrelevant from an SF perspective.  In the same way that the fact that Joyce couldn&#8217;t write himself out of a paper bag seems to be irrelevant in his genre.</p>
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		<title>By: jameswharris</title>
		<link>http://jameswharris.wordpress.com/2007/02/24/twenty-years-ago-the-classics-were-different/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>jameswharris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to audio books on an iPod so I don't have to mess with CDs or cassettes.  I only get unabridged books, so yes, they are long, even as long as 40-55 hours, but most SF books are 12-25 hours.  The reason I like listening by a good reader is because they go slow and I can picture everything better.  Good books don't have sound effects or even music.  Most audio book listeners find that intrusive - but podcasts and some short story producers feel the need for such extras.

I get these books from Audible.com - although MP3 and other digital sources for books are becoming widely available.  Most libraries now offer digital downloadable audio books.  Audible and MP3 work with iPods.  Library services require a Windows PlayForSure compatible player.

I don't like parallel universe stories either, and was disappointed when Old Man's War used that gimmick.  When absolutely anything can happen it ruins the story.  I'm currently listening to The Cat Who Walks Through Walls by Heinlein, a book in his multiverse series, and it annoys me no end.  Characters facing believable problems is what makes for a good story.

The reason why I loved Timescape so much was because of its subtle nature.  It felt real and scientific.  Too often, especially in the movies, science fiction has to have super heroes for characters.

I like going into books with no or low expectations and being surprised.  I like books where I start reading and get enchanted.  I want the line by line story to mesmerize me.

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to audio books on an iPod so I don&#8217;t have to mess with CDs or cassettes.  I only get unabridged books, so yes, they are long, even as long as 40-55 hours, but most SF books are 12-25 hours.  The reason I like listening by a good reader is because they go slow and I can picture everything better.  Good books don&#8217;t have sound effects or even music.  Most audio book listeners find that intrusive - but podcasts and some short story producers feel the need for such extras.</p>
<p>I get these books from Audible.com - although MP3 and other digital sources for books are becoming widely available.  Most libraries now offer digital downloadable audio books.  Audible and MP3 work with iPods.  Library services require a Windows PlayForSure compatible player.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like parallel universe stories either, and was disappointed when Old Man&#8217;s War used that gimmick.  When absolutely anything can happen it ruins the story.  I&#8217;m currently listening to The Cat Who Walks Through Walls by Heinlein, a book in his multiverse series, and it annoys me no end.  Characters facing believable problems is what makes for a good story.</p>
<p>The reason why I loved Timescape so much was because of its subtle nature.  It felt real and scientific.  Too often, especially in the movies, science fiction has to have super heroes for characters.</p>
<p>I like going into books with no or low expectations and being surprised.  I like books where I start reading and get enchanted.  I want the line by line story to mesmerize me.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
		<link>http://jameswharris.wordpress.com/2007/02/24/twenty-years-ago-the-classics-were-different/#comment-1024</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 00:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I collect outside of the genre with mainstream classics and mystery-thrillers (that my wife likes).  Again because of time limitations, have not gotten around to reading any of these.
The only unabridged audio that I own is the third Dark Tower installment, which is composed of so many CDs.  It'll have to wait till I get through the first two books.  Hyperion would be similarly unwieldy. Wonder how much sound effects they incorporate into such audiobooks.
On your slower-than-light travel thread, I remember Vinge's great zones of though novels emphasizing such problems. I've completely forgotten what happened in Into the Night and am not even sure if I finished Across the Sea of Suns.  The memorable novelty of tachyons in Timescape on the other hand was spoiled by the resolution using the overused SF-comic convention of parallel universes.  What I mean to say is that just like for movies, maybe we shouldn't raise our expectations too high for any novel and set ourselves up for disappointments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I collect outside of the genre with mainstream classics and mystery-thrillers (that my wife likes).  Again because of time limitations, have not gotten around to reading any of these.<br />
The only unabridged audio that I own is the third Dark Tower installment, which is composed of so many CDs.  It&#8217;ll have to wait till I get through the first two books.  Hyperion would be similarly unwieldy. Wonder how much sound effects they incorporate into such audiobooks.<br />
On your slower-than-light travel thread, I remember Vinge&#8217;s great zones of though novels emphasizing such problems. I&#8217;ve completely forgotten what happened in Into the Night and am not even sure if I finished Across the Sea of Suns.  The memorable novelty of tachyons in Timescape on the other hand was spoiled by the resolution using the overused SF-comic convention of parallel universes.  What I mean to say is that just like for movies, maybe we shouldn&#8217;t raise our expectations too high for any novel and set ourselves up for disappointments.</p>
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		<title>By: jameswharris</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 14:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it may not matter if a book is a classic or bestseller when it comes down to whether you are going to enjoy reading the book.  I think both classic and bestseller are just concepts that help people find good books to read.  And isn't classic just another name for all-time bestseller?

What intrigues me is the idea that there might be thousands of books out there that aren't bestsellers, that I might love.  Books that got no attention but would be perfect just for my tastes.

One thing I have discovered is to chase after the non science fiction bestsellers.  When I was young I focused on science fiction, but in the last ten years I've discovered reading outside of the genre.  And although it might sound lowbrow, I have found sales is a good indicator.  Statistically, the more people that like a book the higher the chance I will too.  

By the way, were your three all time favorites the books you mentioned, 1984, Hyperion and The Man Who Fell to Earth?  That is a rather unique bunch.  I've been wishing that Hyperion would come out on unabridged audio.  I love listening to my favorite books read by a great reader.

I wished I had started out being a slow careful reader like yourself.  It's only until I started listening to audio books that I saw the value of that kind of reading.  I have to force myself to slow down and enjoy the trip now when I read.  I'm learning.

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it may not matter if a book is a classic or bestseller when it comes down to whether you are going to enjoy reading the book.  I think both classic and bestseller are just concepts that help people find good books to read.  And isn&#8217;t classic just another name for all-time bestseller?</p>
<p>What intrigues me is the idea that there might be thousands of books out there that aren&#8217;t bestsellers, that I might love.  Books that got no attention but would be perfect just for my tastes.</p>
<p>One thing I have discovered is to chase after the non science fiction bestsellers.  When I was young I focused on science fiction, but in the last ten years I&#8217;ve discovered reading outside of the genre.  And although it might sound lowbrow, I have found sales is a good indicator.  Statistically, the more people that like a book the higher the chance I will too.  </p>
<p>By the way, were your three all time favorites the books you mentioned, 1984, Hyperion and The Man Who Fell to Earth?  That is a rather unique bunch.  I&#8217;ve been wishing that Hyperion would come out on unabridged audio.  I love listening to my favorite books read by a great reader.</p>
<p>I wished I had started out being a slow careful reader like yourself.  It&#8217;s only until I started listening to audio books that I saw the value of that kind of reading.  I have to force myself to slow down and enjoy the trip now when I read.  I&#8217;m learning.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 13:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life is short.  I'm a slow reader, analyzing nuances of each sentence.  I feel that rereading would be a waste of time, considering the thousands I still have in my library and the more important medical books and journals that I still have to read.  The deluge of new authors and books seem to contradict our impression that sf book readers are a dying breed.
I don't regret the price of the book purchases themselves, as half of my 5-6k collection cost about ten US cents each.  It is true that finding sought-after books gives pleasure- sometimes more than reading them (cases in point- Dying Inside, Neuromancer, Adulthood Rites, Waking the Moon). I intend however to force myself to go through the difficult start of Left Hand of Darkness (as I loved the Dispossessed).  I've long realized that taste is a personal matter, but no list on the internet places all three of my favorites.
Is enjoying a book that is and remains a classic ultimately more satisfying than enjoying a contemporary "bestseller"?  Unless one gets into the habit of the rereading experiments you mentioned, I believe that in the end, both are the same.
Writing SF?  I don't have enough job or life experiences to mask deficiencies in artistic ability and command of language.  Have you tried so yourself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life is short.  I&#8217;m a slow reader, analyzing nuances of each sentence.  I feel that rereading would be a waste of time, considering the thousands I still have in my library and the more important medical books and journals that I still have to read.  The deluge of new authors and books seem to contradict our impression that sf book readers are a dying breed.<br />
I don&#8217;t regret the price of the book purchases themselves, as half of my 5-6k collection cost about ten US cents each.  It is true that finding sought-after books gives pleasure- sometimes more than reading them (cases in point- Dying Inside, Neuromancer, Adulthood Rites, Waking the Moon). I intend however to force myself to go through the difficult start of Left Hand of Darkness (as I loved the Dispossessed).  I&#8217;ve long realized that taste is a personal matter, but no list on the internet places all three of my favorites.<br />
Is enjoying a book that is and remains a classic ultimately more satisfying than enjoying a contemporary &#8220;bestseller&#8221;?  Unless one gets into the habit of the rereading experiments you mentioned, I believe that in the end, both are the same.<br />
Writing SF?  I don&#8217;t have enough job or life experiences to mask deficiencies in artistic ability and command of language.  Have you tried so yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: jameswharris</title>
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		<dc:creator>jameswharris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 12:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derrick, don't assume I'm typical.  I know lots of science fiction fans that have enjoyed SF their whole life and their love of science fiction never changed.  I guess the question you have to ask yourself:  Will I be the kind of person that is consistent or will I be the kind of person who changes as they get older.

Most people do not reread books.  Some booksworms like myself do, but they don't spend a lot of time rereading book.  However, it is a fun experiment.  There are a number of experiments you can try.

First, read a book and wait a month and read it again.  This can show you how well you read and how well you remember.  Speed readers tend to skip over a lot, and when they reread they discover surprising tidbits which make them think, wow, I didn't remember reading this, why don't I remember.

Second, and better experiment is to reread a favorite book from teen years when you are in your twenties and then thirties, forties, fifties, etc.  This will show how you have changed, if you do change.  And like I said, some people don't.  However, most people mature and so you will still learn from the experiment.  I radically changed, so I now often reject books I onced loved.  I'd like to think this is because I've gotten smarter, and I've read many more books which happened to be better books, but it might be because I've changed a lot.

Third, wait 25 or 50 years and reread favorite books from adolescent years and see just how much you remember and whether you remembered things right.  The mind can be very tricky.

When I was young I used to buy books by the bag and got thousands ahead.  I'm still about a thousand ahead now.  I wished I didn't do this, but it's a consistent habit of mine.  I'm not a collector, but I might have a bit of that gene, or else I have the library gene.

1984 will probably remain a classic for a long time.  I really loved Hyperion too and wished the sequels were its equal.  And books like the Walter Tevis one will remain an underground favorite but may never achieve top popularity.

There are two issues here.  The books you love are due to personal reasons.  The books that become classics are due to many complex causes and that's a fascinating study.

The reason I built those lists was to develop a system that could identify books that last.  Some of them won't, but many will.  Don't get too sad yet.  The question is are you getting a good rounded education about science fiction?

If you are the kind of person who has changed you will find some of those thousands of books will be bad purchases.  But so what, buying books is fun.  Also, you need to recognize that buying books is a different love than reading books.

By the way, since you love science fiction so much, do you want to write science fiction?

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derrick, don&#8217;t assume I&#8217;m typical.  I know lots of science fiction fans that have enjoyed SF their whole life and their love of science fiction never changed.  I guess the question you have to ask yourself:  Will I be the kind of person that is consistent or will I be the kind of person who changes as they get older.</p>
<p>Most people do not reread books.  Some booksworms like myself do, but they don&#8217;t spend a lot of time rereading book.  However, it is a fun experiment.  There are a number of experiments you can try.</p>
<p>First, read a book and wait a month and read it again.  This can show you how well you read and how well you remember.  Speed readers tend to skip over a lot, and when they reread they discover surprising tidbits which make them think, wow, I didn&#8217;t remember reading this, why don&#8217;t I remember.</p>
<p>Second, and better experiment is to reread a favorite book from teen years when you are in your twenties and then thirties, forties, fifties, etc.  This will show how you have changed, if you do change.  And like I said, some people don&#8217;t.  However, most people mature and so you will still learn from the experiment.  I radically changed, so I now often reject books I onced loved.  I&#8217;d like to think this is because I&#8217;ve gotten smarter, and I&#8217;ve read many more books which happened to be better books, but it might be because I&#8217;ve changed a lot.</p>
<p>Third, wait 25 or 50 years and reread favorite books from adolescent years and see just how much you remember and whether you remembered things right.  The mind can be very tricky.</p>
<p>When I was young I used to buy books by the bag and got thousands ahead.  I&#8217;m still about a thousand ahead now.  I wished I didn&#8217;t do this, but it&#8217;s a consistent habit of mine.  I&#8217;m not a collector, but I might have a bit of that gene, or else I have the library gene.</p>
<p>1984 will probably remain a classic for a long time.  I really loved Hyperion too and wished the sequels were its equal.  And books like the Walter Tevis one will remain an underground favorite but may never achieve top popularity.</p>
<p>There are two issues here.  The books you love are due to personal reasons.  The books that become classics are due to many complex causes and that&#8217;s a fascinating study.</p>
<p>The reason I built those lists was to develop a system that could identify books that last.  Some of them won&#8217;t, but many will.  Don&#8217;t get too sad yet.  The question is are you getting a good rounded education about science fiction?</p>
<p>If you are the kind of person who has changed you will find some of those thousands of books will be bad purchases.  But so what, buying books is fun.  Also, you need to recognize that buying books is a different love than reading books.</p>
<p>By the way, since you love science fiction so much, do you want to write science fiction?</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 06:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starting from high school (late 1980s), I've collected thousands of speculative fiction books, mostly from second-hand bookstores.  I've found time to read only about one percent of these.  I also collect graphic novels but they're harder to come by the bargain-bin.  Most people I know have moved on to other things, as have the author of SF classic lists.  I was always hoping I could enjoy my collection (which is based on all those lists) after retirement age, but based on your experience, it seems a waste of time on my part. This saddens me.
Among my favorite books, I was under the impression that 1984 was and will remain a classic.  Hyperion was better than its sequel.  The Man Who Fell to Earth wasn't on the list.
One of my first reads was Asimov's Foundation which did catch my fancy then.  I have never had time to reread any novel.  Now I fear rereading them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starting from high school (late 1980s), I&#8217;ve collected thousands of speculative fiction books, mostly from second-hand bookstores.  I&#8217;ve found time to read only about one percent of these.  I also collect graphic novels but they&#8217;re harder to come by the bargain-bin.  Most people I know have moved on to other things, as have the author of SF classic lists.  I was always hoping I could enjoy my collection (which is based on all those lists) after retirement age, but based on your experience, it seems a waste of time on my part. This saddens me.<br />
Among my favorite books, I was under the impression that 1984 was and will remain a classic.  Hyperion was better than its sequel.  The Man Who Fell to Earth wasn&#8217;t on the list.<br />
One of my first reads was Asimov&#8217;s Foundation which did catch my fancy then.  I have never had time to reread any novel.  Now I fear rereading them.</p>
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		<title>By: retro</title>
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		<dc:creator>retro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just love the classics!</description>
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		<title>By: jameswharris</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim,

You're right, kids do keep on reading.  What I'm discovering is they are reading stuff off my radar.  I go to Amazon and start clicking around on people's book lists and recommendations and I discover all kinds of books kids are excited about.  Harry Potter is the huge tip of a very large iceberg.  Most of what kids are reading aren't famous books that get a lot of attention, but authors, series and new genres that the kids know about and recommend among themselves.  I wish I had some good examples, but my memory is failing me at the moment.  I keep hoping to find time to pursue some of those books, and other genres like graphic novels and manga.

It would be great to be able to track that new stuff.  I think most of the books on my Classics list are fading from the young people's radar.  Like you said, some books, Ender's Game and Dune remain popular, but damn few others.

I think the young generation likes to discover its own new stuff and not dig around for classics.  My Classics list is really exciting stuff that the baby boomers were discovering decades ago and most of those books won't become real classics.

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, kids do keep on reading.  What I&#8217;m discovering is they are reading stuff off my radar.  I go to Amazon and start clicking around on people&#8217;s book lists and recommendations and I discover all kinds of books kids are excited about.  Harry Potter is the huge tip of a very large iceberg.  Most of what kids are reading aren&#8217;t famous books that get a lot of attention, but authors, series and new genres that the kids know about and recommend among themselves.  I wish I had some good examples, but my memory is failing me at the moment.  I keep hoping to find time to pursue some of those books, and other genres like graphic novels and manga.</p>
<p>It would be great to be able to track that new stuff.  I think most of the books on my Classics list are fading from the young people&#8217;s radar.  Like you said, some books, Ender&#8217;s Game and Dune remain popular, but damn few others.</p>
<p>I think the young generation likes to discover its own new stuff and not dig around for classics.  My Classics list is really exciting stuff that the baby boomers were discovering decades ago and most of those books won&#8217;t become real classics.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've used the lists of SF Classics on your website as a reading guide over the past few years (I found it in 2003).  I'm female and 31, read a few sci fi stories when I was in junior high and high school that stuck with me (this was in the late 1980s and early 1990s) so I was interested in learning what the classics of this genre were.  I find your essays on the classics interesting, lots of things to think about.  I just have a few comments.  

I think kids will go on reading for pleasure as long as writers and publishers put out books kids find interesting, not things that adults think kids should read.  Harry Potter books have proven that a book can outsell video games and movies.  I work in a library and I see kids as young as 8 or 9 eager to read these massive novels.  Graphic novels are another category that show kids have no prejudice against the printed page.  (And of course a lot of manga has a science fiction theme.) It seems to me that science fiction works that focus on the wow factor of technology quickly dates, while works that have a good storyline, character development, etc., stays relevant longer and is likelier to be read decades after they were first published.  Flowers for Algernon, Ender's Game, Dune, I see junior high age boys today reading these (of course, sometimes it's because it's required for an English class).  And a work that withstands the test of decades or centuries is always a rarity and not necessarily typical or representative of most works of their time.  The authors of these works that survive the test of time, such as Austen or Dickens, often had unusual talent in story-telling and writing.  Most fiction of the 19th century did not stand the test of time, just as most fiction from the 20th century is forgottten today already.  How many works from the 1970s or 1980s of any genre are commonly read in 2007?  Most books, not just science fiction works, go out of date pretty quickly.  

I still find these lists and your essays great reading guides.  Thanks for all your work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used the lists of SF Classics on your website as a reading guide over the past few years (I found it in 2003).  I&#8217;m female and 31, read a few sci fi stories when I was in junior high and high school that stuck with me (this was in the late 1980s and early 1990s) so I was interested in learning what the classics of this genre were.  I find your essays on the classics interesting, lots of things to think about.  I just have a few comments.  </p>
<p>I think kids will go on reading for pleasure as long as writers and publishers put out books kids find interesting, not things that adults think kids should read.  Harry Potter books have proven that a book can outsell video games and movies.  I work in a library and I see kids as young as 8 or 9 eager to read these massive novels.  Graphic novels are another category that show kids have no prejudice against the printed page.  (And of course a lot of manga has a science fiction theme.) It seems to me that science fiction works that focus on the wow factor of technology quickly dates, while works that have a good storyline, character development, etc., stays relevant longer and is likelier to be read decades after they were first published.  Flowers for Algernon, Ender&#8217;s Game, Dune, I see junior high age boys today reading these (of course, sometimes it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s required for an English class).  And a work that withstands the test of decades or centuries is always a rarity and not necessarily typical or representative of most works of their time.  The authors of these works that survive the test of time, such as Austen or Dickens, often had unusual talent in story-telling and writing.  Most fiction of the 19th century did not stand the test of time, just as most fiction from the 20th century is forgottten today already.  How many works from the 1970s or 1980s of any genre are commonly read in 2007?  Most books, not just science fiction works, go out of date pretty quickly.  </p>
<p>I still find these lists and your essays great reading guides.  Thanks for all your work.</p>
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